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akitas371 · Feb 04, 2006, 03:57 AM // 03:57

Specs:
AMD athlon 64 3200
RAIDMAX Case Power Supply 450W
nVidia 6600GT 256mb
ABIT Kn8-SLI Mobo
1Gig Corsair Mem

Ive had this computer since i built it oh maybe 2 weeks ago. Ive had GW on it for aybe 1 week. Played fine before but recently started restarting on me while playing the game. Different tweeks over 1 day resulted in maybe 5 restarts with the last one not being able to boot up.
Wouldnt think its a overheating issue as im getting 24C Idle CPU and 32C Game Cpu with a System temp of 30C Idle and 34C Game.
GPU Runs at 39C Idle and id say 41-50C Game.

What can be my problem?
Cause its turning on but i dont think its booting because my screen is Reading No Signal.

swaaye · Feb 04, 2006, 05:30 AM // 05:30

Could be a power supply prob. Try a different one if you have one. Could also try pulling some components and unplugging unnecessary drives to see if it fixes the prob.

Kaguya · Feb 04, 2006, 07:10 AM // 07:10

I'd try another vidcard first, if it worked for couple of weeks, it should atleast boot up..

If you can borrow another vidcard from somewhere, try with that. Powersupply is 'okay' by the wattage, but the watts marked on PSUs usually are underrated/overrated/crap, atleast on the 'non-brand' ones.

cannonfodder · Feb 04, 2006, 08:51 AM // 08:51

Before all that. The easiest thing to try first is to reset the CMOS, in your motherboard manual it will show you the location of the CMOS battery and jumper, you could eaither remove the battery for 1 min or so, or use the jumper to clear the CMOS.

Poison Ivy · Feb 04, 2006, 09:10 AM // 09:10

If you have any replacable crap lying around, swap them around.

You'll find the reason......eventually :S

Josh · Feb 04, 2006, 04:29 PM // 16:29

I had a similar problem to you when trying to put in an ATI Sapphire Radeon 9600 PRO card (I ended up sending it back to Sapphire).

A solution that solved your kind of problem was resetting the CMOS/Mobo settings, if you know what a jumper is, it should be sat next to a circular battery that is vertically or horizontally encased in a metal. Mines a lil red one which you can pull of 2 pins, although it has 3 pins on it, it only covers 2.

Take it of for a minute or so, pop it back on and re-try.

If that doesn't work, try-resitting your Graphics Card, and re-plugging the monitor cable back into the GFX Card, and re-sitting RAM, etc.

Could actually possibly be your GFX Card or Monitor Cable are loose or not sat properly.

Kamahl FistofKrosa · Feb 04, 2006, 05:07 PM // 17:07

Will a loosely sat GFX card shutdown and restart your computer when playing guild wars?. Funny enough josh, i have a powercolor 9600 pro, and my computer shuts down and reboots in guild wrs (and not in bf 1942).The case i have is real shoddy, and the PCI slots wont line up to the panel on the back. I cant screw my gfx card onto the back panel, so i have to use a string to tie it through some holes. Its fairly sturdy though, so i dont know if thats the problem.

Josh · Feb 04, 2006, 05:37 PM // 17:37

Is your card an AGP or something then? Lol. If you have a card and it's not fitting into your graphics card slot properly, then that is a problem...

Kama, what drivers are you using? Omega or Catalyst and what version? Or a modded driver?

Also, try disabling fast-writes (if you haven't already), it'll be in the Catalyst Control Center in smartGART. If that doesn't fix it, in the same tab (smartGART) try changing it from AGP 8X to 4X.

^^ That's aimed at Kamahl by the way.

akitas371 · Feb 04, 2006, 06:29 PM // 18:29

Yeah ive reset the CMOS already and reseated the RAM its dual channel and i switched them around also. The 6600GT is PCIE and tried reseating it. When i turn the computer on all fans spin including the 6600s fan although nothing reads on the LCD ive reset all the cables also. Ill see if its a PSU problem by disconnecting the Soundblaster card, and dvdrw/cdrw burner.

BTW the graphics card is seated very tightly. Case is screwless RAIDMAX Ninja case and the things you use to keep em in place dont let the thing move at all. I know its seated fine because when i first built it i couldnt get anything on screen and it turned out to be the card wasnt in all the way. :P

Josh · Feb 04, 2006, 06:35 PM // 18:35

Have you tried taking out the circular battery that should be next to the CMOS jumper? Take it out for 30 minutes, pop it back in, then see.

~ It should be encased in a metal.

akitas371 · Feb 04, 2006, 09:21 PM // 21:21

ill try that now

Alias_X · Feb 04, 2006, 10:04 PM // 22:04

It could be a hard drive failure, that is what happened to me when my hard drive failed.

akitas371 · Feb 05, 2006, 02:59 AM // 02:59

battery thing doesnt work and i know for a fact the hard drive is fine because its brand new besides oh a week and a half of use

Riotact · Feb 05, 2006, 03:29 AM // 03:29

If its only happening whilst playing guild wars, It can only b 2 things. Ram or VGA. If Powersupply or HDD r faulty then they fault anytime. have u tried another game? google a program to test your hardware, something like PC check.

akitas371 · Feb 05, 2006, 06:42 AM // 06:42

Well lets see i cant boot it up to check anyway...but Quake 4 Ran fine with max settings on including max antiscop filter

Ubernoob · Feb 05, 2006, 07:02 AM // 07:02

Ive got the same pc as you except ive got the 3800 x2 processor and for some reason my guild wars crashes the same as your does but the thing is ive been running gw for about 2 months now and ive had no problems so im thinking mabye one of the updates has done this?

Kaguya · Feb 05, 2006, 08:37 AM // 08:37

Pretty sure it's a vidcard failure, which I already said on post #3.

HDD failing wouldn't stop the whole computer from booting.

I'd try getting a 2nd vidcard and testing that. If it works, then it's the vidcard busted. If CPU/Memory were busted, the motherboard would be beeping quite a lot, unless the motherboard itself died. But testing vidcard is the easiest thing, and most probable too.

Power supply is bit hard to figure out if it's broken or not, or just unsuitable, easiest to install a monitor program when it's working, and see how the voltages are under stress.

Josh · Feb 05, 2006, 04:40 PM // 16:40

Well if he wants to test his PSU (Power Supply), he could try it on another PC, or his old 1 with GW and see if it works fine and stays on long enough.

Rayea · Feb 05, 2006, 05:33 PM // 17:33

um, have you tried testing the monitor on another pc as well?
(i try to never overlook the obvious after re-installing my sound twice, then finging out i had the speakers turned to no sound >.< lol)

when you start the macine, you have no picture at all? not even the white writing that tells you the amount of ram on the vidcard and lets oyu hit del or f2 for settings and cmos?
can you get anyhitng from it at all?
*theres always a chip failure to consder

grr)

also, i assume ur using WinXp? (windows 98 has a memeory issue when using over 512meg memory, i found out recently lol)
PSU *should* be ok, i have same spek chip as you, but a 128 vidcard and a 410 psu and im fine right now...

and a realy daft question....you did use the little brass screw to make sure the mainboard is off the case, right?
(seems obvious, but i have brounght so many pcs back from dead by simply taking them off the case and apllying the brass screws, i can tell you)

akitas371 · Feb 05, 2006, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Yes the moniter is fine yet i cant test the video card or what not because the family computer is a vaio which doesnt open without a sledgehammer :P When i start the machine the fans on everything come on the LEDS come on and it sounds like its booting but the LCD says no imput signal or whatever going to power save. The Mobo is definitly mounted right with brass screws keeping it from shortcircuiting. I know the mobo isnt dead becuse it has a A'OK light on it and the SLI light. the mobo leds are fine. The power supply is a case one yes but the raidmax psu's arent that bad. When it was running i had a ABIT moniter utility and i was getting correct voltage on everything including right temperatures. 3V was 3.3V and so on.

And btw im playing GW on the VAIO Atm so its fine. its run for hours on end on the comp before. Know anyway to open a Sony Vaio PCV 572 model?

Thing is when i turn it on ALL the fans come on INCLUDING the XfX 6600GTs fan... you think i shuold post detailed pictures of the video card to see if you guys see anything the could be a problem?